Yakushimi. Name: The Beyonder, The One From Beyond, The One Who Is All, "Frank," Kosmos, The Maker, The Broken One. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. LT got rekt by beyonder Reply Ozymandias935 • Additional comment actions. Nope that’s pre-retcon not post retcon. Originally posted by the Darkone Spectre at full powered is above the pre-recon beyonder, Spectre is powered by God, I'm sorry that's one Ace even the pre-recon Beyonder can't overcome. If i had to lowkey choose one blindly, i'd go with PRB. Using these lines of evidence, pre-retcon beyonder clearly wields greater control over reality than OT god. Carey and JM De Matteis brought the guns, material and ammunition NEEDED to make DC the second-first tier most powerful fiction. -Everything in bleach. @dami24434: cosmology expansion. If he was a true omnipotent, then he wouldn't have been retconned. Jackalinthebox said: I thought pre-retcon Beyonder was closer in power to Lucifer & Michael, rather than the Presence. Round 2: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs God of Stories Loki Bonus Round: Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Venom (The End) Archived post. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are. Comparing Multi-Eternity to baseline High 1-B, like the Glory is, is like comparing 10-B to High 3-A, or Low 2-C to 2-A. Pre retcon beyonder was more of a plot device than a character lol. But This Gaunlet is way out of order, why the heck is Odin and Zeus above Molecule Man. One Punch Man gets one punched by Beyonder and the shock wave from the punch kills Squirrel Girl as well. beyonder post-retcon ii (aka beyonder-inhuman-mutant) 4. The following is an overview of our Tiering System. island. He was initially. They literally referenced him and said that he was just a child. There is no way to square all of. Per Hank Pym the events of SW2 actually DID happen and were not a "trick" by the abstract powers (which is what the retcon stated. Pennywise beyond infinite-D has no basis. which is. If I argue against you it's because I find your logic flawed and won't count your vote unless you provide sufficient. The Byonder had to use an infinitesimal fraction of himself to possess people until he got close enough to Doom and have Doom lose control of the. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is. Nothing's ever more ridiculous than claiming a guy who got extremely tired just from erasing Death from the multiverse, jobs like fucking crazy during Secret Wars II and lost a serious fight to Rachel Summers (which everyone seems to. This is before Beyonder's drop in status so his current status is "Above Michael and Lucifer". Phoenix attacks Beyonder with all her power, Beyonder don't even flinch. Has no equal or superior, Created Heaven’s (which could be a Universe) with a word and is just flat out stated to be omnipotent with. K. Edit: Looking at the respect threads PR Beyonder actually seems a lot more impressive, and it seems my point regarding Lucifer being half the Presence was wrong. The original Beyonder was created for the Secret Wars (1985) miniseries. In Secret Wars 2, the Beyonder was above the real Living Tribunal (In the retcon, it was. He was even above and beyond the writing staff . Featherine is way above than Beyonder. So, I looked at The Beyonder's (Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely, 1-A. in classic era: Jim. Celestials > Post-Retcon Beyonder > Phoenix Force. Any of the Smash gods could do it, and so would the beings above. Composite-DC/Vertigo's Infinite Hierarchy is. PanzerX. Defenders Beyond prove GoS abilities work on Beyonders or no. Round 10: Presence And GEB ( Respect Thread for GEB) Both are. 1. Beyonder one writer turned the Beyonder into nothing more than a street-level jobber begging his Daddy or the Lost One to give him some of his powers to create a universe full of gambling and girlfriends because he probably doesn't have the power to do it simply because the Lost One is the source of all his powers and abilities. Apr 8, 2018. The old prerecton beyonder wasnt the same as the current beyonders, but he was related to them. ago. Posts. Pre Retcon Beyonder is multiversal while Homelander is low A tier. Pre-Retcon Beyonder wrecks. So he could just kill them and the concepts they represent. Poll Scathan The Approver vs Pre-Retcon Beyonder (84 votes) Scathan 26%. Both are vastly above. Even lower tier characters in Mythos would. the Source blinks Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Originally Beyonder was a mysterious cosmic entity from outside the multiverse who was more powerful than Galactus, The Celestials, and the entire Cosmic Compass. 5 years ago Gojira25124-Beyonder True Omnipotent değildir sadece Hyperversal level omnipotenttir. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. This thread wouldn't affect what tier Molecule Man (Pre-Retcon) is at because he still would be High 1-B. Holo-Man • 3 yr. " it would be pretty cool to get a tag team them lol but very interesting thank you for. #31. Even if we insanely highball Spectre to be equal to the Living Tribunal (which, as powerful as he is, he clearly is. Nov 25, 2017. 11,059. The Beyonder is far, far beyond a Multiversal. 6 + (POW + (SPS*SPL))^2 + COM^1. Created by writer Jim Shooter and artist Mike Zeck, the Beyonder first appeared in Secret Wars #1 (May 1984) as an unseen being who kidnapped the heroes and villains of the Marvel Universe and had them do battle on another planet called Battleworld. we dont really see him at that tier because of how much good servants are at controlling collateral damage. than i understand from other blogs Pre-retcon Beyonder is High 1-A/ High Outerversal in beyond-realm. IMO Lucifer convinces the Beyonder to kill himself. However, Post-Retcon is going down, hard. When ranking the strength of characters the natural thing to go by first is physics. And form. Divine mystical enhancements granting near omnipotent abilities. Beyonder and its not even close. Let me remind you that SCP verse is much bigger than both Marvel and DC. I think you could argue rather convincingly that he's the 2nd moat powerful character in all of fiction, only behind TOAA. R1/R2 - Depends which Post retcon as their is two, this goes for Molecule man also, the Half Cosmic cube MM and Beyonder and the Inhuman/mutant Beyonder and the Beyonders powered MM. He encompasses all of dimensionality, but he does not transcend it. New Comics. Galactus (when reasonably fed) and the strongest Celestials. @Prince CortSether said: Assuming PR Beyonder in this thread stands for Pre-retcon like it usually does. Beyonder is marvel. The Beyonder erases Death itself from the Multiverse, the Living Tribunal and his delegation politely beg the Beyonder to bring back Death to the Multiverse. Theoreticaly speaking yes Pre Retcon Beyonder is above TOAA simply because TOAA is the most powerful being in the marvel universe, and PRB is 1 million times more powerful than the collective. As in you're taking the story at face value. Summary. Master/Crazy Hand, Tabuu, Galeem/Dharkon. Dimensional Tiering. The Beyonders who are attacking the multiverse are beings that live in the beyond, which most likely is either outside the multiverse, or be void between universes. Humans that exist in a megaverse can't automatically destroy a universe in another fiction. Creation. Rune King Thor is still under Omnipotent beings such as The-One-Above-All and Pre-Retcon Beyonder. In 1985, before any changes were made to the story, The Beyonder was a. Shigaraki(My Hero Academia) fights an army of street tier DC and Marvel heroes. -. Rune King Thor is still under beings such as The Living Tribunal infinitely. Pre Retcon Beyonder wins with ease! He is literally beyond everyone and everything (ofc not TOAA) and a multiversal threat. Grace ended months ago, but I'm pretty sure Aka's High 1-B key is being downgraded (still high 1-B but much lower on the tier). 4 years ago. Business, Economics, and Finance. However, since infinite force and energy is the highest degree of strength that a character can reach in terms of physics there would be no level of power above what is necessary to destroy an infinite universe, i. What Makes marvel only H1B while DC is Layers into Tier 0? Does DC truly scale higher than Marvel, is it the other way around or are they practically equal?. And a similar amount more powerful than everything in the MU combined. One of the most controversial fights in various sites across the web, finally arrives here. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. 1. 0. Beyonder was affecting the entire Marvel multiverse or omniverse, or something like that, all at once. Thanos with the HOTU is more powerful than LT as well, though I can't remember any massive feats he had. He was like the 2nd strongest guy in Marvel, only underneath the One Above All. Beyonder is tier High 1-B for being an infinite dimensional being meaning that the Marvel Universe has infinite dimensions confirmed. He still wins the fight imo . Especially Yujiro's penis. My only question is: Is that Pre-Retcon. Heck, even the ones who created said multiverse and pretty casually at that are massively inferior to him. Word Lords, the Celestis, Faction Paradox, etc. it would be mostly stalemate. About; History; Powers; Equipment; Movies; Gallery; Battles; Comments; Edit; Power Stats; SHDb; uStats; Intelligence. At the time of the Secret Wars he was stated as being equal to the One Above All. It’s not. both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted. "But only in their dreams can men be truly free. The Beyonder was once a God with limitless powers in the Marvel Omniverse. I am still wondering, the summary clearly says Racher Summers could beat the Beyonder if she absorbed all life force. everything else is nothing to him Galactus. I can break this down into more detail. It is capable of becoming a Multiversal threat, but it's vastly weaker than any of the Apollyon-Class SCPs. Lucifer is also technically the most intelligent being in DC besides God. 14. CryptoName Owen Reece, Molecule Man Origin Marvel Tier: 1-B Gender: Male Classification: Mutant Age: Unknown Abilites and Powers: Matter Manipulation, Reality Warping, Space-Time Manipulation, Transmutation, Probability Manipulation, Molecular Manipulation Weaknesses: a non stable mind Destructive Capacity: Beyond Multiversal ( was able to. However, he can scale to characters with immeasurable speed via statements. Which then would put the DC team a few steps below the over-void - DC's prime meta. Spectre is tapped into God so he has an unlimited amount of power at his disposal. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. Follow 8344. The Beyonder is an infamous member of the Beyonder race. • Speed: The Beyonder doesn't have too many solid speed feats, Omnipresence isn't considered as a speed tier but rather a state of existence + he's only omnipresent within. perpetua slams but shinra one taps both because he’s tier -1 and transcends all. The Chaos gods are tough to kill as they are powered by and represent concepts. He's been away from the Marvel Universe for a while but now he's back in all of his overpowered. R1/R2 - Depends which Post retcon as their is two, this goes for Molecule man also, the Half Cosmic cube MM and Beyonder and the Inhuman/mutant Beyonder and the Beyonders powered MM. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. 11,582. Follow 1187. The rest was necessary PIS to make a more interesting story. Even LT feared him and begged him not to do everything he did. Jump Force Goku view all Shonen as fiction how will Pre Retcon Beyonder will win. 4,925 4,750. Doom did. the Elder gods should be top of their tier. I/O has a low-tier character that is on the level of Pre-Retcon Beyonder and everyone, as in literally EVERYONE, even the. All of Thanos’ feats are fodder tier in comparison to him. Beyonder before the retcon was stronger than TLT. (50% off!) Beyonder vs The Presence. 4,453 1,084. His Abilites consist of Powers and. The fight takes place in an empty galaxy. #2. It should however be noted that sometimes having overall destructive capacity is not enough to defeat others that have "broken" or "hax" abilities. Gender: Inapplicable (As the character stated, "he" was made of energy. Thus, Bill, in theory, could do something that the Beyonder never. She inherited the Demiurgic power through her father and with Lucifer's guidance, she molded and created her own universe, and that was a vastly weaker and earlier version. Originally posted by the DarkoneThe brothers are the most powerfull in there Multiverse. 213. Beyonder on the other hand, pre retcon at least, is a million times more powerful than the entire of Marvel combined. . Name: Lucifer Morningstar Origin: DC Comics Classification: Angel Gender: Male Age: 10,000,000,000+ Years old Strength Lifting: Speed: Nigh-Omnipresence Striking Speed: Striking Strength: Durability: Intelligence: Nigh-Omniscience Range: Multiverse+ Level Destructive capacity. Follow 41274. #2 deactivated-629d3023b5b49. Basically all Dragonball characters ever created in their most powerful form fight PR BEYONDER all at the same time. Only if the Beyonder is in his realm, but that becomes a major stomp based on whats said here. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Blueface1999 • Additional comment actions. 13 years ago@TheLegendary32 said:. Age: Unknown. A statement from Mephisto referring to that part of power as "so potenti is this. - Neither. Victini could arguably do it if you allow Pokedex entries. Didn't Comic God of Stories affected Pre-Retcon Beyonder? 12 days ago. Also, I should mention that they are probably re-retconning him to his previous levels soon. Although marvel uses numbers to calculate; it's as if he's Alef Null x Billion beyond infinity that already exist, which Tribunal and many others have already transcended. English Branch All Mighty can knock out SK tier entities by casting flood and elder gods who hold back from accidentally destroying entirety of existence are sitting in his shadows, that's enough for both lucifer and beyonder. Continental. R1: Pre-Retcon Beyonder Takes Low-Mid Difficulty. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk (Classics); formerly the Elder gods should be top of their tier. @amendment50 @jardinain2 @decaf_wizard @watcher5000 Can help you out with his feats. Basically beyonder is being of infinite dimensions when He limits himself, but as beyond realm he is a creature that goes beyond all that. as omnipotent deities in their respective realities, the OAA Dominates the Hoi Realm. Immersion: Beyonder (Pre/Post-Retcon), GoS Loki, HOI Vision, The One Above All and Multi Eternity via Eternity Mask, Deadpool with the Continuity Gem and She-Hulk (Classics); formerly Plot Resistance: The Beyonders (Ivory King), Beyonder (Post-Retcon); scaling from the other beyonders and GoS Loki Toon Force: She-Hulk. Beyonder 39%. Introduction on The Beyonder: OHOTMU v2 #16: The Beyonder was an extra-dimensional entity which was the sum of everything in the universe known as the Beyond-realm, and became aware of our universe/multiverse due to Owen's. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Rick has tried to go toe to toe with one of his universe’s “gods” and it went. He was basically like if God tried to create a champion capable of doing just about everything that. Beyonder, Pre-Retcon or Post-Retcon with minimum effort. You know that. -Everything in bleach. The Pre retcon Beyonder also known as (Original beyonder) is a fictional character in the Marvel Comics universe. Key: Incomplete Cosmic Cube | Ascended Cosmic Cube (Kosmos) | Adult Beyonder | Escaped from the House of Ideas. Or, more accurately, He wills the predominating aspect of his presence from non-being to being, from void to reality, yet still encompassing both. Member. That being said, I’m going to give this one to the pre-retcon Beyonder. His anti-feats are plot-induced because it's attempting to tell the story of him trying to figure out the Marvel multiverse because it's so tiny and simplistic in scope to the Beyonder realm. If someone can actually name a more. Tier= Universal+ | Creation. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. He. At the time this storyline was written Beyonder Spider-Man would stomp. Servant tier -the gil that appears at fate stay night, fate strange fake and as a servant in fate go(not the alive gil). So I might be missing something. 1. Forum Posts. Weaknesses. 43. 412. So much so that the MU was below it's notice. and nothing comes up. Manhattan) and has recreated a galaxy. the_doctor. The Watchers. Superhero Battle match: Beyonder versus Multi-Oblivion & Oblivion (Pre-Retcon). R1: Lucifer wins Mid-difficulty R2: Pre-recton beyonders wins high difficulty. R1: Post retcon Beyonder vs Bleach verse. The power possessed by the Beyonders seems to dwarf all other beings in existence, with the exception of the One-Above-All, as the Beyonders were able to defeat and subsequently destroy every incarnation of every cosmic being that ruled over existence within a matter of months. g. So wow great feat. TOBA is just TOAA's alternate persona. True Darkseid might actually have a chance though. This will be Pre-Retcon beyonder against John egbert with his Retcon powers Speed is equalized (Not that it matters cause both these boys are in the Immesruables) The Father : The So:. Locked post. Giratina has quickly established itself as one of the stronger characters of the Low 2-C tier. The Beyonder is a fictional character appearing in comicbooks published by Marvel Comics. George and Jessica vs Gaap and Ronove. 5 years ago. . Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Respect Rick Sanchez (Rick and Morty) Scarlet King (SCP). You need to be logged in to post comments. 1 Answer. u/nullfather can attest to that. Post-retcon isn’t anywhere near as powerful as Classic (Pre), but he’s still pretty powerful. Minor nitpick. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. But Pre-retcon Beyonder is just a cut above the rest in terms of these characters. "For the. He would also be the main villain in. Pre-Retcon Beyonder kills Thanos no matter what the circumstances are. This was the same time the first Secret Wars wherein Beyonder first. PR Beyonder is millions of times stronger than the Marvel multiverse. Pre Retcon Beyonder shitstomps the edgelord version of Batman into the ground, along with the rest of the DCverse. " -Robin Williams (Dead Poets Society) ~Member Since: 09/25/2009~. I can break this down into more detail. Thelastmlg said: thought robot is around baseline high hyperversal while beyonder is stronger that everyone in the marvel multiverse combined times some millions which includes the living tribunal and if i not wrong multi-eternity which both are baseline high hyperversal. ago. Although, if you forced me to choose one, i'd say Beyonder is a little above Molecule Man. The realm is known as the Engine Room, The Wild Spaces Beyond Reality, Heaven, The Mystery, The. Well technically Dr. R. Beyonder is a cosmic Marvel Comics comic entity created by Jim Shooter, Mike Zeck and John Beatty. 5: (Pre-Retcon Only) Molecule Man (Owen Reece) Tier 2: The Living Tribunal; Tier 2. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Possibly so, but if he was talking about. Pre Retcon Beyonder is non-canon Don't use that excuse unless you only want to use the inhuman/Mutant Beyonder. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Your right about Oblivion shockingly. unlimited power to manipulate matter and energy; invulnerable. Skyfather. They’re 50 tonners at most. Conditions of the battle: *Composite Time Lords will include variants of the Time Lords from the Expanded Doctor Who Universe (e. The Only Thing I know. However, PR Beyonder is an extremely powerful reality warper and is simply way out of Dr. 0. In other words the only feat the One Above All has that is confirmed is creating a reality of infinite. The entire Watcher. 7 years ago. Beyonder preretcon upgrade to 1A. Again, I don’t kno Fu, but if he’s Hyperversal as ur sayin, or even higher, then he’d def beat Post-retcon. Pretty sure he can't do shit to The Presence lol & there's also Lucy & Michael there. Not to mention Beyonder detailing Doc Strange's win con over him, tailor. Beyonder is canonically a "child unit" of the BeyonderS that were the antagonists of the 2015 series- and those things wiped out the entire marvel abstract tier including LT without breaking a sweat. He could possibly neutralise Doc and Sun with science alone but the others are true top-end with actual god tier powers. Btw- Is anyone going to give an actual reason why Beyonder wins, or is this battle gonna be judged on. While thinking the Beyonder accidentally destroys the Omniverse. Marvel's Multiverse was not using Type III Multiversal Expansion. #1 quandaledingle. Pre Retcon Beyonder. Speed Equalized Round 1: Gauntlet Scenario Round 2: John. Forum Posts. Tier: At least Low 2-C, likely 2-A | At least Low 1-C, likely higher | 1-A Name: Alien X Origin: Ben 10 Gender: Male Age: Inapplicable (Likely billions of years old. It would be the Inhuman/mutant beyonder powers so Post Retcon but not the trash Cosmic Cube one. 8 years ago. PRB was millions of times more powerful than all the poster in the Multiverse combined. The molecule man destroys the machine and sends the enormous energies of the Beyonder into his beyond-realm forming a big bang and creating a new universe in the process - Scan 1, Scan 2, Scan 3, Scan 4 and Scan 5. There is nothing he can do to hurt him while Beyonder can snap his finger and destroy Flash and the universe. She isn't even the strongest female magic user, far from it actually. R2: God stomps. Tier: Stellar | Endless | Realium | Transcendent: Keys: Base Galactus power absorbed | Infamous Iron-Man | Dual Infinity Gauntlet God Emperor Doom | Pre-Retcon Beyonder absorbed: Extra: Simple words can't describe the glory of Dr Doom, as Galactus, he deserve more than 5 stars 😤 Beyonder and Lucifer gets blinked by Shinra with his narrative manipulation. Yujiro teaches the Beyond how to love, so I guess they both win. #44 Edited By Debunker020202. Every Super Power has a score (SPS) that is used to calculate. This is just plain wrong, we see SK fighting abstract entities like the 5th God who infinitely dwarf the entire collective of human consciousness, wich in the verse includes Platonic and Neoplatonic philosophy, several religions like Buddhism and Taoism, and alephs and other higher teir mathematics. These sorts of characters tend to push higher on the scale occasionally -- notably, Molecule Man was able to match Pre-Retcon Beyonder and he and Franklin Richards recreated the multiverse. The One Above All/Pre retcon Beyonder (both characters were created by legendary comic book writers Jack Kirby and Jim Shooter, Beyonder and OAA are avatars of these two comic book writers. There it, the respect thread for Pre-Retcon Beyonder. my favourite DC tier 1 Beyonder: 1 TTR: Over 8 The Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) Quantu. 12984. Archie sonic defeated someone who could destroy millions of MULTI-VERSE zones. Beyonder is a top tier reality warper there is no spoon there is no trigger there is no SOK. The Voice - This is the most "active" version of God, When The Voice uttered the first word, it created The Word. God’s best feat is him creating the concept of light with a single command, while Beyonder has crazy other things that are more impressive. Yeah All Mighty Wins. We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured. Still Pre-Retcon Beyonder. Anyone trying to still argue Pre Retcon Beyonder is some Marvel top tier needs to have their info refreshed. he has base stats of high island ap and dura with near sol speed and ftl combat speed. The First and Second Retcon Beyonder are not above The LIving Tribunal. And this character is an entire cardinal infinite tier below. CryptoCurrent MM isn't that strong in comparison to a high-tier reality warper. In terms of scaling, the downplay of most of the entire Marvel verse was frustrating. bonus: lỊch sỬ cÁc lẦn retcon cỦa beyonder – kẺ sỞ hỮu nhỮng feat bÁ ĐẠo nhẤt lỊch sỬ marvel comic. Xeranthemum from Suggsverse, at least going by the wiki. 12984. Childlike and vastly powerful, he grew up in a universe created by the other Beyonders for their young. P. MM is superior to LT due to defeating the Beyonders, who one-shotted LT in a. Jul 16, 2022 #2 Pre-retcon Beyonder: Low 1-A cap Perpetua: 1-A cap yeah this is a stomp in Perpetua's favor . London, UK. The Beyonder himself has been described as infinite-dimensional in a far more reliable and explicit narration, and been referred to as only possessing power. 0. They’re 50 tonners at most. When super-amped Doom battled the Beyonder he got stomped hard. He is the embodiment of the Beyonder Realm, a place much bigger than the Marvel Multiverse, outside of reality. Pre Retcon Beyonder is the Supreme Being of his Multiverse. Pre Retcon Beyonder gets wrecked hard lol. Molecule Man utterly in fear admitted that Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) is on levels unimaginable to him and self-stated that he cant Match Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) in power meaning that Beyonder was infinitely more powerful than him even when he was above all the powers of the cosmic hierarchy (Including: The Living Tribunal himself). This fight takes place in a neutral space and either party wants to kill the other. She’s not on Living Tribunal’s tier. " Do not attempt to upgrade the pre-retcon Beyonder to 1-A, due to two instances in which the Beyond-Realm was described as being beyond time and space of the universe or multiverse. But it wont be easy by no means. I mean it would be awesome to see Beyonder whip his ass with ease but I mean, poor Anti-Monitor, he was an evil bastard but he did not deserve this. Pre-Retcon Beyonder 10/10 destroy Flash. So, I looked at The Beyonder's(Pre-Retcon)profile and, found out that he is rated Tier High 1-B and likely,. 5 )^2 + (SPE*0. @kingkronos said: @Pwok21 said:. WF Mr. @mr-yes: Yeah I don't see how this makes him stronger than this Beyonder, who tangibly bypassed all of Marvel cosmology (even the parts supposedly "beyond" it) and did his Pre-Retcon feats as a. Doom absorbed the power of Galactus to unlock more of MM's power and MM eventually needed everyone's help (especially Silver Surfer) to defeat the Beyonder. Almost any high tier character can beat him"Motion Carried!" ― Alien X Alien X is a sample of Celestialsapien DNA recorded in the Omnitrix that Ben Tennyson can utilize to take up the characteristics of a Celestialsapien. I'm not taking sides.